The Realtor makes an offer, Chapter 4: How will this end?

We did not get the Toluca Lake townhouse that we made the offer on.

We offered full price.  So did the listing agent's clients.

Our terms were good.  So were the listing agent's clients.

We were going to put 20% down.  The listing agent's clients were putting more down.  According to the listing agent, that's what persuaded her seller to take their offer and not ours.  Of course, the listing agent will get the full 6% commission, but I'm sure that had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with who the listing agent's seller picked.

Will we continue to look? Maybe.  Maybe not.  Right now, we're busy licking our wounds.

Should house prices still be falling?

I'm not sure.  According to the National Association of Realtors, the median house price in the US is $170,500.  The most recent American Housing Survey data from 2008 shows median rent at $ 808 per month, and the CPI-Rent index is essentially flat since 2008.  This means the cash flow cost of renting is $9696 per year.

If we assume the mortgage interest rate on a 30-year fixed rate mortgage  is 4.5 percent, the cost of home equity is 10 percent, a buyer puts 20 percent down on a house, property taxes are one percent of house value, marginal income tax rates (state and local) are 25 percent, maintanence costs are one percent per year, and amortized closing costs are another one percent per year, the cash cost of owning is $12,162 per year.

But the median rental unit is 1300 square feet and the median owner unit is 1800 square feet, so owning the median owner unit costs about 10 percent less per square foot than renting the median rental unit.  This means house prices could fall and, in some places at least, still leave the owner better off than renters.

Neither renter nor owner markets are national, but I am hard pressed to think of a time when owning on a cash-flow basis looks so reasonable relative to renting. 

The Realtor makes an offer -- Chapter 3: the negotiation

The Toluca Lake townhouse we like is listed for $439,000.  I believe the comparable sales in the neighborhood and complex show it to be worth about $425,000.  On Monday night, my husband and I made an offer of $430,000.  We have 20% down, are pre-approved by a direct lender, and can close in 30 days.  I will be taking my share of the commission, which is 2.5%, which will help with our closing costs.  We might go to $439,000, but I'm concerned about the appraisal coming in at that value.

The townhouse is still not available to be shown as painting is being completed, but will be ready right before Thanksgiving for Realtors and their clients to view.

On Tuesday, the listing agent tells me the seller wants to wait to respond to offers until after her Sunday-after-Thanksgiving open house and is stuck on her asking price.  Fair enough.

On Thursday, Thanksgiving Day, the listing agent calls me to tell me there is another good offer in and it is comparable to ours in price, terms, etc.  She sends a $439,000 counter offer to us.  We sign off -- appraisal be damned, my husband really loves this place -- and send it back.

The listing agent calls to tell me that she is representing the clients who are bringing the other offer (I wondered how anybody else got in to see it so soon) and they too have signed off on the full-price counter.  This goes without saying between agents, but she will make 6%, not 3.5%, if she double-ends this.
Next: how will this end?

Ingrid Ellen, John Tye, and Mark Willis on Covered Bonds replacing GSES

They write:

Covered bonds have three potential advantages over MBSs as a method of mortgage finance.
First, they have the potential to reduce principal-agent problems, because the banks themselves
would hold the loans underlying covered bonds, giving them an interest in originating better
loans. Second, because the mortgage loans would simply remain on bank balance sheets and not
be put into special trusts subject to the incentives of servicers, banks could modify failing loans
far more easily than MBS trusts can. This could reduce foreclosures and maximize loan value.
Third, depending on how they are implemented, covered bonds also hold the possibility of
improving the options available to homebuyers who find themselves underwater. In Denmark,
covered bonds operate according to the “balance principle.” The balance principle requires a
match between each mortgage written and every bond issued. It permits homebuyers two options
for paying off their debt: they may either pay off their mortgage at par, or they may repurchase
their lender’s bonds on the open market, in an amount corresponding to the size of their
mortgage, and return those bonds to the lender. Falling house prices will often depress the
corresponding bond prices (though this may not always happen). When house and bond prices
fall together, homeowners can sometimes refinance their homes at the new, lower house price,
by buying back their bonds at the lower bond prices, and surrendering the bonds to the original
lender. This new option for refinancing could reduce foreclosures in the event of a widespread
decline in housing prices.

There is uncertainty, however, in the extent to which covered bonds would deliver the same level
of liquidity as GSE MBSs, because in a covered bond system, mortgage loans remain on bank
balance sheets. Moreover, it may be difficult for covered bonds to achieve the minimum efficient
scale to compete with government-backed GSE MBSs. As in Denmark, an effective covered
bond market would require standardized bond forms, and a high-volume market that could
demonstrate liquidity to potential buyers. If covered bonds were issued by hundreds of banks
across the country, each with different underwriting standards and bond structures, the extensive
market fragmentation would seriously reduce trading volume and liquidity for any particular
covered bond issue. The Danish covered bond system is effective because the market is highly
structured and homogenized, with only a few participating banks.

Me again: one of the selling points of covered bonds is that they remain on bank balance sheets, and, in Denmark anyway, have no explicit of implicit backing from the government.  But do they really lack such backing?  If the government is willing to inject liquidity into banks (and in Denmark, it is), do the bonds really lack a guarantee?  I am not so sure.




The Realtor makes an offer - Chapter 2: Kitchen worries

The townhouse we're considering buying in Toluca Lake really suits us.  We like the location, the layout, the price and the HOA.  But the kitchen...doesn't work at all.  It's tiny (the picture above is not it.)  We're not gourmet cooks, but this kitchen is about 2/3rds the size of the one we have now, which is already too small. It's u-shaped, and there won't be room for two humans and 3 pets.  It has a double oven, which we don't need, and has no pantry, which we do need. It really needs a build-out, and we can't work with it as it is.

We went to Lowes and got cabinet catalogs.  And had a contractor who we've used in the past take a look.  (This contractor can sell ice to Eskimos.)  Yes, the kitchen can be remodeled, built out, expanded, etc. -- and will cost a minimum of $20k just to do a medium-line build out, probably more.  In cash.

Yikes.  That's on top of our 20% downpayment.  During this time, we were also watching HGtv remodeling shows.  Yes, a medium-line kitchen will cost $20k plus.

Other flaws become evident.  The rooftop patio has water intrusion issues.  The master bath doesn't have a tub. There's one less closet than we need, although perhaps we can do something in the garage.  The carpet is shot.

Although we had our doubts, the pluses outweigh the minuses, at least to my husband.  We went ahead and made an offer anyway, about $9k less than full price.  We won't sell our existing house until the Spring, and we can close in 30 days.  We're approved by a lender.

And the place hasn't been shown yet as it's being painted (but is on the mls), so we figure the early bird is going to get the worm.  The listing agent is in my office, is a friend, and has gotten us to see it in advance of the marketing.
Next: our negotiation

The Realtor makes an offer - Chapter 1: Money worries

My husband and I made an offer on a townhouse in Toluca Lake.  The seller will make a decision this weekend. We like our current place, but our current neighborhood is not what it was.  This townhouse has more space, is newer, has an attached garage, a patio with a view, etc.  It also needs a new kitchen and carpet.  You'd think we'd be sanguine about this, but no.  This decision was fraught with the same worries that most buyers have:
- Can we truly afford it?  Our monthly nut will go up!
- What if either one of us loses our job? And my husband is close to retirement!
- Is it wise to dip into savings for the downpayment?
- What about the higher property tax?
- Can we get what we think we can get for our current home?
Stay tuned...

A thought experiment on airport screening and jobs

As noted in earlier posts, my students and I discussed Bill Cronon's Nature's Metropolis this past week.  One of Cronon's explanations for Chicago's extraordinary growth was its role as a distribution center: railroads had both eastern and western terminals in Chicago, and so lots of stuff got collected and moved in the city.  Chicago is not the only city whose development came about in part because of transshipments; one could tell such stories about Hong Kong and Singapore as well.

Coincidentally, Nate Silver had a blog post this week where he estimates that extra post-9-11 security screening reduced air travel by 6 percent.  This begs the question as to how much impediments to movement are also impeding the broader economy.

I wrote a paper a few years back that linked passenger traffic at airports to employment.  The finding was that an increase of one passenger per capita per year produced a 3 percent increase in jobs.  A typical large city has four boardings per year per capita, so let's run the math: -.06*4*.03 is a .72 percent reduction in jobs.  The US has about 139 million jobs, so a .72 percent reduction is about a million jobs.  So it is possible that impediments to travel mean we have a million fewer people working than we otherwise would.

This is very much a first cut, rough kind of number, but it does give one pause.  Is what we are doing at our airports worth sacrificing a meaningful number of jobs?  Perhaps.  But we should still think about the trade-offs explicitly.

Burbank's Holiday in the Park

Magnolia Blvd. in Burbank will be closed tonight between Buena Vista and Hollywood Way for the annual "Holiday in the Park."  This should be great fun if it doesn't rain.  My reason for going: this will be a good opportunity to visit some of Burbank's and the greater L.A. area's best resale and vintage clothing stores (yes, I've previously blogged about Burbank's clothing stores).

Is US success a product of bailouts?

Hamilton "cemented" the Union by getting congress to agree to assume the states' debts from the American Revolution; in exchange, he gave up his desire to have New York be the federal capital.  Ron Chernow's recounting of Hamilton's genius at getting assumption done.

These thoughts cross my mind as I hear people say that the solution to our mortgage problems is to get rid of non-recourse loans.  We have long been more generous about bankruptcy than Europe, and it may explain why our economy is more dynamic and innovative.  The US is a country about second chances in so many ways (including education); it is a country where it is OK to fail and then come back.  We need to be careful about messing with that.

The NBC Universal Expansion Plan, Burbank and the Burbank Leader

Today's Burbank Leader has an article about the NBC Universal Expansion plan and how it may effect Burbank.  The environment impact report link is here -- but it's 27 volumes.  Burbank's Community Development Department is in the process of reviewing the report's findings, and comments about the report can be submitted to the City Council by Jan. 3.  The report states that traffic will only be minimally impacted, because everybody will take the bus.  Oh, please.

More about 1435 Pass, Burbank or the trouble with "auction prices"

See below for previous posts -- and comments -- on the listing at 1435 N. Pass, Burbank.  An agent in my office, whose client made an offer on it for $435,000, tells me that there were ten offers by last weekend.  His client's offer was not the highest, and he believes Pass went into escrow around $440,000+.  This is still less than what I think the house is worth, and in my opinion, the buyers got a fabulous deal.  I'll know exactly what it sold for when the price is published in the multiple listing service next month.

I think that if the sellers had priced this a little closer to the comps, it would have taken a longer to sell.  That's a bad thing.  But I also think they would have ended up with a higher price -- and that's a good thing, if you're a seller.

More BIll Cronon

I just finished my third reading of Nature's Metropolis, which I am teaching tomorrow.  It is among the best works on central place theory and aggomeration that I know. 

He also paints vivid pictures of wheat being harvested and shipped to the White City's great grain elevators, the lumbermills of Marquette and Marrinette, of timber sliding down ice flows and floating down rivers and lakes; we can smell the entrails from the slaughtered cattle and pigs, and imagine how the Chicago River South Branch bubbles with potions not even the Weird Sisters could have imagined.  He established how it became a metropolis by not becoming a new center of the center, but rather the center of the periphery. 

We can see how the city raised living standards--standards that 130 years later we would (rightfully) deem appalling.  His picture of Chicago, warts and all, is far more entralling than Sinclair's picture. 

Couldn't we get him to do Tokyo now?  Mexico City?  How about Los Angeles?  Kevin Starr has written a great history of California, but Cronon's angle would be different.

I may want to buy 10645 Bloomfield in Toluca Lake for myself

Along with my husband, I got a sneak peak at Mimi Kim's listing at 10645 Bloomfield in Toluca Lake.  We liked it.  A lot.  For ourselves.  It has the requisite space, an attached garage and we like the neighborhood and complex.  Problem: the kitchen doesn't work for us; it's much smaller than the kitchen we have now.  Should I buy it and remodel the kitchen? Dare I take money out of savings to do so?  All of a sudden, I'm having the same dilemnas that my clients have.  Stay tuned.

Need a laugh? Agent comments from the multiple listing service

Today's post from our friends at AgentGenius.com is a "blooper reel" of comments written by listing agents on the multiple listing service.  Sample: “Beautiful satan wallpaper in foyer” (No doubt it’s a flame print.)."  No doubt many of these were from Realtors in the San Fernando Valley. Click here for more.

One hand clapping for the Deficit Commission Co-chairs' powerpoint

It is not much of a report, but it emphasizes two things that do matter:

(1) Tax expenditures are about $1.1 trillion, and deficit reduction requires scaling them back.  While there has been gnashing of teeth about a proposed top marginal tax rate of 23 percet, the powerpoint contemplate this only in the context of full elimination of tax expenditures.  This would surely be more efficient--it is also possible that it would be more progressive, as the biggest tax expenditures (exclusion of the employer contributions for health care, exclusion of employer contributions to pension contributions, and the mortgage interest deduction) tend to go to those with higher incomes.  It is an empirical question as to how these things net out, but it is an empirical question worth answering (a similar analytical exercise was done in the middle-1990s, but the world is now different).  If someone can create a tax code that brings in more revenue under static assumptions (i.e., is not projecting revenue based on Voodoo economics), is more progressive, and has lower rates because of the phase out of tax expenditures, I am all for it.  FWIW, as someone who has a California mortgage and pays California state income taxes, this is probably not in my personal self-interest.

(2) I do think we need to do something about the retirement age, but it should somehow be linked to occupation.  I have a cushy job, and there is no reason why I can't keep doing it until I become demented.  But those who do physical labor just wear out, and it is not reasonable to ask a 60 year old lineman (the telephone kind, not the football kind) to "retrain."   

More on 1435 N. Pass, Burbank

See the post farther down on the page.  Here's the email string between the listing agent and me.

Mike, your email went into my spam folder.  I will remove the comment about offers over listing, although I'm sure you did get offers over listing.  That's all.  I think you should thank me -- that post has gotten lots and lots of site vists, and I suggested that any buyers bring their A+ game and not mess around with making lowball offers. It may turn out that your prevailing buyer took my advice, which is to the benefit of your sellers.  Further, my listing two doors away closed at $480k just a little over six months ago and I stand by my estimate of the value of this listing.
Judy Graff




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Babakhanyan <soldbymikeb@gmail.com>
To: Info@JudyGraff.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 11:47 am
Subject: Your Blog on my Listing

Judy,
 
I read your blog regarding my listing on 1435 N. Pass Ave. 

1435 N. Pass, Burbank: real price or auction price?

 
 
You certainly have the right to express your opinion when blogging, but you have information that is misleading and I want you to remove certain comments immediately.
 
1.        I never informed you anything about the prices of our offers.   You asked if I have multiple offers and I said YES.  I never said anything about the offers being over asking price. 
2.       You are commenting that the price of the home will sell between $460k-$480k.  Today’s comps don’t justify a sales price that high.  You are misleading and I need you to remove that.
 
My office is ready to file a complaint at the Professional Standard Hearing Board if the corrections are not made.

Thank you,
 
Mike Babakhanyan
Prudential California Realty

More animal statues in Burbank, CA!

It has been awhile since I've had the opportunity to do this! And I so look forward to publishing pictures of graven animal statues in Burbank, CA.  This roaring, winged lion is one of two who guards the gate of the Doge's Palace in Venice a house on Brookshire, right next to the listing posted below.

3301 Brookshire Ct., Burbank for $2,599,000 - office exclusive listing

Here's the front door (plus a lot of Realtors) of a home at 3301 Brookshire Court, in the Highridge Estates in Burbank, CA.  It has 5 beds, 7 baths, 6645 square feet, a pool, a view of the San Fernando Valley, and all the bells and whistles you could want in a high-end home.  It's really gorgeous and it's listed for $2,599,000.  But unless you retain a Dilbeck Realtor, like me, you may not be able to view this home for sale in Burbank for awhile.

Why? Because it's an "office exclusive."  This means the house is for sale, but is not yet in the multiple listing service.  The seller has decided that buyers at this point in time must be represented only by Realtors from the listing agent's office -- that's us, Dilbeck Realtors.  How does that benefit anybody? The sellers chose to do this as they want to wait to publicize the listing until after the holidays, but wish to make the home available for (really) motivated buyers now.

Residential Foreclosure Temptation

Making money by purchasing foreclosed homes sounds like an easy way to turn a profit, but buyer beware: The unwary purchaser may be buying a financial disaster.

Residential real estate foreclosures have been on the rise nationwide for the past several years with little sign of slowing down in the near future. The adjustable rate mortgage phenomenon coupled with general economic factors of our time have created a perfect storm of disaster for many homeowners, and the result is that many homeowners are finding their homes in foreclosure. With these foreclosures comes an excellent opportunity for a knowledgeable investor.

For the ill-informed, however, buying a foreclosed property at a sheriff’s sale can be confusing at best, and at worst it can be financially disastrous.

Become Familiar With The Foreclosure Process In Your State
The foreclosure process in each state is dictated by statute and case law, and the procedure differs greatly from state to state. In some states, such as Texas, the entire process can take less than three months. In other states, such as Wisconsin, the process can easily take nine months to a full year, or even longer if the homeowners file for bankruptcy protection or otherwise work to delay the process.

Each state has its own methods and procedures, and the first step to success is understanding the foreclosure process for your state in its entirety. If you plan on making foreclosure investment a serious venture, you may even wish to enlist the assistance of an attorney who can advise you on the foreclosure process and help you better understand the full procedure for your state.


Do A Thorough Title Search
In many states, properties are sold at foreclosure sales subject to any liens and encumbrances already on the property. This can include judgment liens, tax liens, prior mortgages, real estate taxes or any number of other financial or title issues which the purchaser at the foreclosure sale can inherit. An unwary purchaser may buy a property that seems like a great bargain only to find out that it was sold subject to tens of thousands of dollars worth of other liens, or worse.

Do not rely on the statements of other potential purchasers, the attorneys for the foreclosing bank, or even those of the homeowner when it comes to the status of the title to the property. Either enlist the assistance of a title company or become familiar with searching the judgment rolls, tax records and real estate records. It is absolutely essential to exercise due diligence and research the status of title for each property before even considering placing a bid at a foreclosure sale.

Be Skeptical About The Property’s Condition
Unlike a traditional real property transaction, there is rarely an opportunity to view the interior of the foreclosure property prior to purchase. Further, the properties are purchased as-is with absolutely no warranties as to their condition. Some interested buyers do contact the homeowners and ask to view the interior of the property, but not all owners are willing to show their houses and in many cases the property has been abandoned or the owners are difficult to locate. As your only evaluation of the property’s condition is likely to be from the exterior, it is essential to think critically about the interior’s condition.

When residential properties go into foreclosure it almost always related to the owner’s financial difficulties. This means that there may be maintenance issues with the property that were ignored due to their expense, or serious repairs that should have been done but were neglected due to the cost. As a purchaser of a foreclosure property, you must be willing to take on whatever problems the interior or structure of the property may have.

There Will Always Be More Properties
Foreclosures are showing no sign of slowing down. If you have serious reservations or unanswered about a property it may simply be best to hold off and wait for the next one. If you cannot go into a foreclosure sale armed with complete knowledge of the property you want to bid on – knowledge of the status of title, the interior and exterior condition, and any other issues that might be of concern to you – you may be better off waiting for the another property.

Paul Willen says self-amortizing mortgages were abundant before the 1930s

He sends me the following table:


It has long been "established" that self-amortizing mortgages were rare before the existence of the Home Owners Loan Corporation, whereas this source suggests they made up 40 percent of loan originations between 1925-1929.  What this table doesn't tell us is how long the amortization period was.  So the importance of the HOLC may have been the establishment of long-term self-amortizing mortgages.

I would love to get actual mortgage contracts with their terms from the 1920s.

A really nice paper on the Home Owners Loan Corporation

This morning I read a July 2010 NBER paper from Charles Courtemanche and Kenneth Snowden.  The abstract:

The Home Owners’ Loan Corporation purchased more than a million delinquent mortgages from private lenders between 1933 and 1936 and refinanced the loans for the borrowers. Its primary goal was to break the cycle of foreclosure, forced property sales and decreases in home values that was affecting local housing markets throughout the nation. We find that HOLC loans were targeted at local (county-level) housing markets that had experienced severe distress and that the intervention increased 1940 median home values and homeownership rates, but not new home building.

Unfortunately, the paper is behind the NBER firewall, but if you belong to a subscribing university, you can get a link to a downloadable version sent to you.

The change in time today reminds me of one of the many things I learned from William Cronon's Nature's Metropolis

Until the railroads came to prairie towns after the Civil War, each town set its clock using the sun.  It was  impossible to run railroads under such circumstances, and so railroads developed "standard time zones," for the United States.  They became the standard well before they were codified into law.

Own a condo in Burbank or the San Fernando Valley? You may wind up paying your neighbor's bills

Here's a story from today's L.A. Times (yes, again) regarding condo associations and how finances are handled, especially when several home owners association members are in foreclosure.  Yes, the remaining members have to take up the financial slack.

What the article doesn't say is that it can be very difficult to sell a condo, even if you're not in arrears in your dues, if the HOA finances aren't healthy.  That's because banks don't want to make loans on these projects -- they believe, rightfully so, that the value may decline due to lack of reserves, inability to pay for maintenance, inability to pay insurance, etc.  Just this year I've experienced this for condo projects in the north San Fernando Valley, Burbank, Toluca Lake or Studio City.  If you are interested in purchasing a townhouse or condo in any of these areas, please contact me and we'll find out about the Association's financial health before you make an offer.

Universal City expansion: necessary for growth or traffic nightmare?

Update 11/10/10: the terrific Burbank, CA blog has a great post about this. As you may know, Universal City plans to expand by adding more buildings to its lot.  This includes almost 3,000 housing units.  Here's the article about the environmental impact report from today's L.A. Times.  Some of the more interesting items in the article with my comments in color:

"The 39,000-page report identified noise and solid waste removal during the construction process as the primary negative effects of the development. " Hmm, since construction is slated to go on for twenty years...


"Our principal concern continues to be traffic," said Daniel Savage, president of the local residents group Hollywood Knolls Community Club. "Especially traffic driven by the apartments on the back lot." I'm with you, Daniel.  Traffic comes to a standstill on Barham on a regular basis.

"About half the $100 million would be spent on improving traffic flow on nearby streets and intersections, which would have to handle an additional 2,750 car trips each afternoon.  That's similar to the traffic generated by a regional shopping center (italics mine), said Patrick Gibson, a traffic consultant for NBC Universal. Mitigation measures such as street widening would ease the flow at most intersections, though Lankershim would remain a bottleneck where it is flanked by the subway on one side and an office tower on the other." Yes, that's similar to a regional shopping center -- especially on those days when all 2,750 cars try to get into the Costco lot between 6:05 pm and 6:15 pm.

I just don't see that traffic won't be a nightmare.  I also don't see that the area needs another 3,000 housing units.

I comfort myself with the opening of Adam Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments

How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature, which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Of this kind is pity or compassion, the emotion which we feel for the misery of others, when we either see it, or are made to conceive it in a very lively manner. That we often derive sorrow from the sorrow of others, is a matter of fact too obvious to require any instances to prove it; for this sentiment, like all the other original passions of human nature, is by no means confined to the virtuous and humane, though they perhaps may feel it with the most exquisite sensibility. The greatest ruffian, the most hardened violator of the laws of society, is not altogether without it.

I have started a classical music blog

It is here:

http://richardsmusicblog.blogspot.com/

This is just fun for me--we will see how it works.

Please make it stop

A friend of mine posts a query to my Facebook Wall:

I was listening to an Economist this AM on the radio [who is] part of a group of Economists who believe FDR's policies prolonged the Depression, rather than helped it. This goes against everything I learned in my vast High School and Community College experience. What's the real deal, Green?
Just to make sure, I calculated four year GDP growth by presidential term, going back to Hoover.  I count as a term as the period from inauguration to inauguration, so 1929-1933, 1933-1937, etc.

The three terms in which GDP grew fastest: FDR III, FDR I and FDR II.  Even if one removes III because of the special circumstance of World War II, he still gets the best two four year periods.  Do people really want to argue the counterfactual?  [BTW, #4 is Truman II, and # 5 is JFK-LBJ].

On the theme of personal responsibility

Investors in second (and third, fourth, fifth...) lien mortgages knew that they were subordinate to first liens.  Such investors bet that the higher rates paid to such mortgages more than compensated for taking a first loss position.  They bet wrong.

People in a position to know such things tell me that one of the impediments to private renegotiation of first lien mortgages is second lien mortgage investors.  If there is a place we could use a reckoning, it would be a recognition that such liens have been wiped out.

Should everyone get debt relief?

Paul Krugman in his column this morning argues that debt relief is crucial to economic recovery.  I think he is basically right, but it is not clear to me to whom he would extend debt relief.  If we don't draw any distinctions between those who actively put themselves in trouble and those who are victims of circumstances beyond their control, we will leave the whole concept of the responsibility to repay debt in tatters.  Even if we don't care about the moral implications of this, we should care that if we do blanket discharges of debt, it will be much harder for consumers to obtain debt in the future.

With this is mind, we should probably draw distinctions among different types of borrowers.  Here is a rough ranking of borrowers in some sort of difficulty from most to least culpable for their misfortunes:

(1) Those who committed fraud: for example, those who willfully overstated their income on a loan application.

(2) Speculators who put little or no money down on a house, and then walked the instant house prices fell.

(3) Borrowers who used cash-out refinances or second liens to buy stuff--vacations, televisions, boats, etc.  Michael Lacour-Little estimates that about half of underwater borrowers in Southern California took equity out of their houses.

(4) Borrowers who used cash-out refinances or second liens to pay for education or health care.  Am I drawing a distinction between (3) and (4)? Yes.

(5) Borrowers who had adequate income to repay their purchase money mortgage, did not take money out of their house, lost a job (or took a serious pay cut), and are underwater.

(6) Borrowers who are current on their mortgages and are underwater.  People in buckets (5) and (6) may well be equally responsible; people in (6) may have just gotten a better draw.

As a policy matter, I cannot see providing debt relief to (1)-(3).  While I agree with Krugman that we cannot let worries about moral hazard prevent us from engaging in all debt relief, we cannot just ignore moral hazard altogether.  The tough part, from a policy perspective, is distinguishing between (3) and (4).  I am not sure how we do that, but it is worth thinking about.

As for (5) and (6), at minimum we could allow such borrowers to refinance into today's low interest rates without any fuss: this would both lower payments and the present value of the mortgage, and hence reduce the amount by which people are under water on a mark-to-market basis.

If I had my druthers, people in (5) would be offered a debt equity swap, where the amount owed (the bond) would be reduced, but a large share of any future profit would be shared with the lender.  The Wisconsin Foreclosure and Debt Relief Plan is also worth considering.

Those who were treated fraudulently by lenders (particularly those who had equity stripped via fees) are in another group altogether, and deserve relief.  I am not sure what the correct policy lever is for delivering it.

Mortgages on property

The basic mortgages available and what they are.

You’ve gone out and bought a new home, but can’t afford to fork over the $300,000 in full right away, so you’ve applied for a mortgage with your financial institution. You’ve been approved? That’s great! Was it the right mortgage?

Essentially, a mortgage is a loan. Mortgages can be taken out on any property owned by someone – a boat or a car for example – but typically are used for real estate. Like everything in life, there are ups and downs to taking out a mortgage on real estate, regardless of whether it is for personal or commercial use. The positive is that whoever is purchasing the property doesn’t have to fork over the full amount right away and can make monthly payments until it is paid off. The downside is that interest is going to build up on the balance and the amortization period chosen determines just how much.

The amortization period of a mortgage is how long the term is. This time period is usually chosen by the person taking out the loan. Each individual financial institution determines the minimum loan period and the maximum loan period – for example, in Canada, the minimum is usually 15 years and the maximum recently was moved up to 35 years. The United States has a fairly similar demographic as Canada, and while most mortgages have amortization periods of 40 years, some banks have started toying with loan period of 50 years.


You can’t have a mortgage without the rates involved. No bank would willingly approve a mortgage loan without getting anything in return. That $300,000 you just paid for a new home? If you have a fixed interest rate of 4.5%, assuming you make all your payments on time and pay off extra when you can, the bank is going to make $135,000 in interest. That’s almost half the cost of your new home!

There are many types of mortgages, including but not limited to:

Fixed Rate Mortgages have set interest rates. If your mortgage starts with 4.5% interest, it is going to stay at 4.5% interest even if the interest rates increase or decrease over time.

Variable Rate Mortgages are just what they sound like. When interest rates increase or decrease over the loan term, your interest rate will increase or decrease with it. So your payments and interest will vary from month to month.
Pre-Approved Mortgages allow you to shop around for your new home or property and know just how much you can afford!

Remember that when you take out a mortgage on a property, it belongs to the bank you took the loan from. This bank can repossess the property at any time you fall into arrears – have missed several payments. Be sure to do your research before applying for a mortgage and know what you can afford. With the many types of mortgages that are available and the right guidance from your financial adviser, it is easier to choose the mortgage that fits your financial position.
 
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